Location of the Major Fords May 7, 2012 13:22:22 GMT -5
Post by bc on May 7, 2012 13:22:22 GMT -5
I also hadn't noticed that the Ree herd going by along the bluff was so close to Reno approaching the bluff (obviously he wasn't up the cliffs yet). This compresses the time a bit between the Rees rounding up the herd and Reno's retreat, unless the herd tarried a bit atop the bluff, which is somewhat possible as they tried to decide where to go with it.
When the Ree stolen ponies first come up the bluff, they run into the scouts who never made it into the valley but followed Custer's path, ie Soldier, who had earlier passed Thompson and Watson with horse trouble. After reaching the top of the bluffs, the Rees regroup and change horses and then move toward the SSR saddle.
If you look between 3411 and SSR there is a hill that divides the headwater of Cedar Creek. North of this hill, down in the bottom is where I think the Ree regrouped, changed horses and Thompson would come over this hill and run into the Ree ponies.
As Thompson moves north past the Rees, the 5 Sioux come up the bluff. Thompson drops down the bluff.
The Sioux begin to attack the Rees and the Rees move to the south.
As the Sioux continue to attack the Rees the scouts split:one group fighting the Sioux and the other run the ponies to Ash Creek passing Knipe heading to Benteen.
Little Sioux, who is trailing the Ree, sees Reno crossing the river and is drug out on the valley floor. So I see Reno just arriving at the river. Others tell of the bunching up of the troops at the river and bunching after they crossed the river before climbing the bluff. I think it was Red Bear that leaves Reno while they are across the river but have not started up the bluffs. So there is sometime that has to be allowed to climb the bluff and assemble atop the hill. For this reason I attribute the killing of Dr. DeWolf by the Sioux going after the Ree ponies. The last of the Rees, Little Sioux, pass by the saddle as Reno is at the river. Benteen moves to Ford A and sees the last of Reno retreat and Reno begins climbing the bluffs the Sioux are now at the saddle, killing the good Dr., and would continue attacking the Rees who are down in the creek bottom east of Reno Hill.
Without that tarry, it might imply that Custer would have been at Thompson's ford not while Reno was in the timber, but rather as Reno was climbing the bluff, and that is too close with the Ford B fight opening about 10 min. later. Custer has to leave Thompson's ford at least 5, probably 10, minutes before Reno hits the retreat ford in order for him to get his column near Ford B for the opening of that fight.
Think about this. Thompson has the opening at Ford B about 40 minutes after Reno approaches the village and goes into skirmish line. So as Reno goes into skirmish, falls back to the timber, retreats the timber and heads to the river, crosses the river and goes up the hill and assembles. Ford B opens fire some where there. I think Reno is or has been on the top of the hill and Benteen is coming up.
Which would put Thompson and Custer at the river, 30 minutes before Ford B , and Reno is ten minutes into the skirmish fight.
Now we get into another timing issue. Did Custer send a scout as a messenger from the ford area and if he did then where did he meet up with Reno at, in the timber or on the bluffs? How long would that take? Could have been a Ree but some say that Curley relayed that last message and brought back a response to Custer. I don't know if Curley said he did or not though but it would explain why he wasn't with the other Crows.