Chief Black Kettle, the facts and the legends Feb 27, 2008 23:52:37 GMT -5
Post by Billy on Feb 27, 2008 23:52:37 GMT -5
custerwest said:For the last part, I said that Black Kettle was 100% responsible, not only for a "blind eye tactic". So, there is no contradiction whatsoever.
"Prove it" as you so often say to others. You simply can not prove that Black Kettle was responsible for the Hungate Massacre or anything else.
What the Cheyennes pretended to do is not useful at all. Yes, they always had interesting tales to explain why they were slaughtering civilians. Yet the facts are that the Cheyennes were deeply involved in massacres, that Black Kettle had white hostages in his village (two white boys), that he began his address to Governor Evans with stories about how his "young men" had massacred civilians and that he is 100% guilty of harboring, training, feeding terrorists.[/quote]
If you would bother reading Michno, you will see who was murdered first and if you buy Becher you will understand more. With regard to your wanting to paint Black Kettle guilty of every crime since Jesus's betrayal; as the great Gershwin song says, "It ain't necessarily so." If Black Kettle was the utter villain you try to paint him as, do you, even in your deluded mind believe a hostage would have survived?
Black kettle was a chief and the Indian hierarchy was much stronger than we say today. We are making Indians look like children because we do not want to make them bear any responsability.
As Jeff Broome said, Spottel Tail dealt with Indian depredators by strongly punishing them. Black Kettle sent his warriors into warpath, welcomed their return, opened his teepees to white hostages and tried to protect the Indian murderers by advocating for peace when winter was coming.
I am not sure and will check with Jeff but I believe that Spotted Tail was Sioux-different tribes bucky. Just somewhat kidding as you seem unable to distinguish differences. Also, Spotted Tail was one of the all-time great warriors of the Sioux Nation. Sorry, just my personal belief.
Interesting to say, Black Kettle remembered how peaceful he was ONLY when winter was coming, ruining the grass of poneys and thus forcing the Indians murderers to stay in their base.
Great point-why don't you research it yourself and come up with primary sources to prove that what you are reading is the truth. Please don't tell me that Greg or Jeff researched it and therefore you don't have to. Horse-feathers! They may supply you the sources but it is the analysis of the raw data that may give you an insight and a chance to be something more than a secondary-source quoter as that is all you have so far been doing.
Grow up, you have too much potential to waste as you are doing now!