Post by blackhawkmike on Oct 5, 2019 23:19:22 GMT -5
Feel free to weep or at least move the tissues to hand.
•Given Name: Without-Weapon
•Birth: Abt 1810 in Cheyenne Territ.,Wyoming,Native America
Marriage 1 Red BEAR b: Abt 1805 in Cheyenne Territ.,Wyoming,Native America•Married: Abt 1840 in Cheyenne Territ.,Wyoming,Native America
1.Has No Children Crazy Mule birth b: Abt 1845 in Cheyenne Territ.,Wyoming,Native America
2.Has Children Stands DIFFERENT birth b: Abt 1850 in Cheyenne Territ.,Wyoming,Native America
Marriage 2 Wolf Tooth b: Abt 1810 in Cheyenne Territ.,Wyoming,Native America•Married: Abt 1860 in Cheyenne Territ.,Wyoming,Native America
Without-Weapon was born Abt 1810 in Cheyenne Territ.,Wyoming,Native America. She married Red BEAR Abt 1840 in Cheyenne Territ.,Wyoming,Native America. He was born Abt 1805 in Cheyenne Territ.,Wyoming,Native America. She married Wolf Tooth Abt 1860 in Cheyenne Territ.,Wyoming,Native America. He was born Abt 1810 in Cheyenne Territ.,Wyoming,Native America.
Children of Without-Weapon and Red BEAR are:
2 i. Crazy Mule was born Abt 1845 in Cheyenne Territ.,Wyoming,Native America.
+ 3 ii. Stands DIFFERENT was born Abt 1850 in Cheyenne Territ.,Wyoming,Native America.
Stands DIFFERENT was born Abt 1850 in Cheyenne Territ.,Wyoming,Native America. He married Buffalo Cow Abt 1880 in Cheyenne Territ.,Wyoming,Native America, daughter of Lame WHITE MAN and Twin Woman. She was born Abt 1840 in Cheyenne Territ.,Wyoming,Native America, and died Abt 1892.
Name: Wolf Tooth
•Given Name: Wolf Tooth
•Birth: Abt 1810 in Cheyenne Territ.,Wyoming,Native America
I am glad you went down that rabbit hole, I wish I had read this thread when it was written, but I don't spend much time on here and when I'm online I'm usually on the Ameritribes board under a different name. I've been doing research and genealogical 'sifting' of the Northern Cheyenne, the Suhtai especially -for about 2 years straight now- of which Wolf Tooth was a member (for I believe he was real) but not born in 1810.
I am very curious where you found the birth dates, would love to dig around on that site, or in that book, for not even Powell's massive two volume tome 'People of the Sacred Mountain: The History of the Northern Cheyenne Chiefs and Warrior Societies, 1830 - 1879' has a birthdate for him.
My Wolf Tooth theory is that there easily could be two Northern Suhtai warriors named Wolf Tooth and be unrelated, or they are father and the son and possibly there are three total, if there was a man named Wolf Tooth from the south. Having researched and successfully untangled the several Northern Cheyennes named Brave Wolf, I am beyond convinced that the Wolf Tooth conundrum is of the same problem, but actually much less confusing.
Theory number 2: Wolf Tooth II was the son and born in the mid 1840's, and fought at the battle of Hundred in the Hand (Fetterman Fight), here he did nothing special, especially compared to quite a number of other Cheyenne and Lakota. He was simply there firing arrows with his friend Big Foot, and he ran out of arrows and got more from his cousin Sap. Not the kind of story a fib teller would create.
A year later he was a tag-a-long of the Spotted Wolf, Turkey Leg (both Northern Cheyenne) and Pawnee Killer (Brule) party that derailed the train, the first incident of its kind on the plains. He was there with Big Foot again, but attributes himself no heroic action, merely deciding that he did not want any of the enormous bolts of calico and silk plundered, preferring his buckskins instead. This again was the Northern Cheyenne Big Foot with him, the one famous for horse raids, same one as at HitH, and not the Minneconjou Big Foot of course.
Wolf Tooth and Big Foot were most likely in the same nis'sin, the other two members of this brotherly group of young warriors is unknown, but would also have been Northern Suhtai, within 3 winters (years) of age difference. Big Foot was born in the 1840's. They could have been blood related as well.
Wolf Tooth II easily could've been part of the Beecher Island fight and likely had taken part in several other raids along the Platte and the road to Denver as the Northern Cheyenne frequented the Smoky Hill/Republican and Platte country many times in this period, always camping with their cousins the Dog Soldiers.
Roman Nose was not, as so many people believe a Dog Soldier member, but a Northern Elk Warrior from Little Wolf's Northern Suhtai band and he actually camped with Black Shin's/Grey Beard's Southern Suhtai and not directly in the Dog Soldier camp, however the Southern Suhtai were with the Dog Soldier camp perpetually to the bitter end. Roman Nose simply led war and raiding parties and Dog Soldiers, Suhtai, Brule and southern Oglala's followed him.
Wolf Tooth II certainly would've been a part of the Platte Bridge/Red Buttes fight in the summer of '65, if he had been at least 19 winters old a year and a half later at the Fetterman Fight.
1847 is a realistic birthdate for him, but so is something like 1843. Wolf Tooth I (the father if there are in fact two Wolf Tooths related) born in 1810 would have been 37 winters when he had Wolf Tooth II, with the Cheyenne 10 year rule (which the hidebound ultra-conservative Suhtai followed even more rigidly), his first child (probably another Brave Wolf lol) would have been born in 1837, and Wolf Tooth I would've been 27 winters.
So then Wolf Tooth II when he appears at LBH 9 years later (along with several hundred other Northern Cheyenne that were at Platte Bridge, Fetterman et al) at 29 winters old, again with Big Foot, both of them were now veteran warriors and possibly each of them one of the 9 'little chiefs' of their warrior society (which sadly Stands in Timbers never tells us and Grinnell never mentions, but it could have been the Elk Horn Scrapers, because the Elks in the north during this period were predominantly Suhtai, but if not, I would suggest the Crazy Dogs before I would the Fox warriors of Last Bull and Two Moons).
After the all night dances on the 24th, where the warriors of the Northern Cheyenne and the Hunkpatila and True Oglala of the Lakota rekindled their close relationship and their history of intermarriage, by drifting between each others dances looking for girls to meet, these wired men captured a few hours of sleep, before staking their horses in the brush along the river, after word among the young warriors spread, especially among the Crazy Dogs and their Lakota counterparts the Strong Hearts, that parties were heading out to find and strike early the soldiers they knew were in the region looking for them, for they had just fought them 3 days earlier.
Wolf Tooth II being 29 would no doubt have been up for this. Obviously many other warriors had the same idea, Wolf Tooth likely was not leading these 50 odd fighters into doing this, but rather it happened organically as it always had. Besides the Crazy Dogs and the Elk warriors would have loved to have gotten one over the Kit Foxes under the unpopular Last Bull, who were the camp police for the LBH encampment.
Motive, likelihood, ability, bang.
Now, he might've just ended up being the senior warrior (especially being one of the nine officers of the society) among this uncoordinated group once they got free of the Fox warrior pickets. Either way, him being eager to strike the soldiers first is entirely believable, especially if he was a Crazy Dog. Not a noteworthy feat however.
I've even read somewhere that Wolf Tooth was lectured by Last Bull (in his camp police role) after the battle for sneaking off with a group of young warriors. If I can find this, this is corroboration he was there. I simply never thought it would be important when I first read it.
The Cheyenne warrior societies were brutal with rule breakers, against each other and even their own chiefs! Little Wolf and his Elks whipped a group of Lakota warriors with their quirts once and sent them running after they had appeared uninvited to a society buffalo hunt. The Crazy Dogs beat the piss out of Cheyenne and Lakota alike at the hill overlooking Platte Bridge, keeping the eager warriors back as to not give the ambush away.
Once a Cheyenne chief found his horse shot, his weapons broken and his tipi destroyed by the Elk warriors for ignoring the council order for all bands to travel together, as he and his band had tried to go their own way.
The Kit Foxes under Last Bull were known as proper assholes when in the police role, thus these young men were eager to sneak past their lines.
Ah, yes, Wolf Tooth... it may be Antelope Woman is our corroborating witness, it just came to me, I will have to look.
So, then, the only thing that would make Wolf Tooth's unremarkable career unlikely is simply age, as in if it were to be he who was born in 1810.
Now Wolf Tooth I, the theorized father, being born in 1810, most likely also did take part in the Platte Bridge fight, I mean, the old ass Suhtai Tomahawk did and he got the best damn coup at the bloody Red Butte fight, outdoing even Roman Nose, at the surrounded army wagon train, where Roman Nose's brother Left Hand was killed.
If Wolf Tooth II was born in the 1840's it would be very likely that it was but one man in these battles, as hundreds and hundreds of other Cheyenne, Arapaho and Lakota warriors from that generation also participated in all the battles, or most, of the Great War Faction of the northern plains, that uber-hostile greater alliance of the 'Northern Nation' (Kingsley Bray's brilliant term for the allied Northern Cheyenne, Northern Arapaho, Northern Oglala, Brule, Minneconjou and later Hunkpapa) and the Dog Soldier Alliance (Dog Soldiers, Southern Suhtai, Southern Oglala and Brule).
So, how's this:
Without a Weapon married Wolf Tooth I (or an unrelated older Wolf Tooth) in 1860 when he was 50 winters old as you posted. Most likely too old at 56 in 1866 to be down in that snow covered valley waiting on the decoys (decoys of which Wolf Tooth's Suhtai friend Swift Hawk (Big Nose), Little Wolf's little brother, was a part of, stealing the show with his incredible feat of arms and daring and ending in his epic death in battle, feats that Mari Sandoz knowingly stole and attributed to Crazy Horse! ...do NOT get me started on that!) to lead Fetterman and Co into the trap, but old warriors fighting in the frozen snow was not unheard of, for the Northern Cheyenne's Northern Oivimana's Council of 44 Chief Black Eagle took off after some Crows in the dead of a blistering cold Powder country night in deep snow several years later in his 50's with a small party and killed 3 of the Crows and got all of his horses back!
However had Wolf Tooth I taken part in the Hundred in the Hand, he wouldn't have been chums with Big Foot nor cousins with Sap.
So this Wolf Tooth I, remarried as well, to Without a Weapon and he possibly watched his son in his second or third fight, while she watched her known son Crazy Mule lead the Crazy Dog contingent in the same fight, with his followers of his 'bullet proof' medicine, many of them from the other two societies and some even Lakota among them. Crazy Mule being just a few years older than his possible step-brother Wolf Tooth II.
Making it even more likely that Wolf Tooth II was a Crazy Dog instead of an Elk warrior as the later LBH actions suggest as well.
Important notes: That there are men named Wolf Tooth in the south at any point in the history means naught as far as blood relations between them and other men named Wolf Tooth anywhere else.
There were at least a dozen Roman Nose warriors and none of them were related to The Famous. Several of Little Wolf... and of Red Bear, one of which was a Northern Cheyenne, but of no relation. This younger Red Bear was part of a ten man, half Cheyenne, half Lakota decoy party that rode out on August 1st 1867.
The famous Northern Cheyenne, Northern Suhtai Holy Man/warrior called Ice, was also known as White Bull or Ice Bear, but no relation to any of the other White Bulls, Cheyenne or Lakota. This is the Ice that made Roman Nose's famous single horn warbonnet.
There were two Black Moccasins and both were chiefs of the Northern Cheyenne, both were born in 1790, one died in 1882 and the other in 1890, neither related.
There are at least two dozen other examples of same names-no relations just among the Cheyenne, so that there are other men with the name Wolf Tooth elsewhere just has nothing to do with the Wolf Tooth of our curiosity.
I'm certainly open for being swayed based upon other evidence, no matter if it's speculative.
There was a Wolf Tongue who may be our Wolf Tooth's Tsitsistas translation of his Suhtai name, but it will never be known.
Most warriors had two names, many had three or more, and not everyone used the same name at the same time for that person. Box Elder, or Maple, or Maple Tree, or Dog on the Range, or Dog Standing, or Dog on the Ridge, or Old Brave Wolf was the long serving head chief of the Northern Suhtai (b.1795, d. 1892) and was the father of Brave Wolf the ridiculously brave Contrary, but he nor his father were related to the Northern Council of 44 Chief Brave Wolf that died fighting the Crow in 1863, whose revenge war party those 14 Dog Soldiers were heading north in 1864 to join... when they were attacked by over-eager Lt. Clark Dunn and 40 men of the 1st Colorado Cavalry, who were driven off in panic by the Dog Soldiers (leaving behind a beheaded Sgt). This no doubt brilliant attack (of mistaken identity, as in 'it's red men, they're guilty!) is widely accepted as the match that kicked off the 1864 Plains War bonfire.
But I digress.
I believe Wolf Tooth was either one man, born in the 1840's a Northern Suhtai, with a rather unremarkable career compared to many of his known and corroborated peers, or he was the equally unremarkable son of the 1810 Wolf Tooth I. I'm open to the second theory, but would need more than the same name/similar name as the justification for it.
This is where I need Steven Crowder's coffee + table 'Change my Mind' meme.
If I've overlooked anything that will make me go 'well, hmmmm' please point it out, I love a good mystery that keeps going...sometimes.
Thank you for being as interested in historical rabbit holes as I am.
Blackhawk Actual, out.