Post by bc on Oct 12, 2010 10:39:47 GMT -5
Oct 12, 2010 9:47:00 GMT -5 @conz said:
So in the interest of fairness, I think we need to recognize the other main theory on Custer's force. This is the theory that after Ford B the force was beaten back by Indians from the ford and routed from there. Custer and the two companies with him were trying to break out to the northeast when they ran headlong into enemy forces coming up from the other side, and were overrun.
A possible model, of course, but the main contra-indicator to this is Custer's expressed knowledge that you never try to outrun Warriors trying to run you down...you turn and face them. It is your only chance.
I fully agree. All "possible" models/theories should be explored, even if some feel that they are not "plausible." There is value in the examination. Just lay out what indicators support your model, and what indicators contradict it, and why you support that model (or other's support it, if you are describing someone else's, not your own belief).
Now here is my challenge to the usual suspects, meaning Keough, Conz, Fred. Don't blow holes in this theory. Trying not to stray too far from known facts (Testimony, archeology, body locations, Goldin); try to develop a supporting theory for this scenario. Many smart people did belive some version of this theory to be true.
Yeah...I think you can make a case for it.
Then you have the combination model which is probably where I'm at cause I don't buy into Yates movement at Ford B as a recce (whatever that means). Custer already has been on enough high points to see where the village is and the warriors movements as well.
I see Ford B as a full fledged attack. With warriors returning from Reno on the Bluffs and in the valley, Custer sees all the warriors being sucked into the Ford B leaving the north end of the village empty except for running non-coms. Realizing that his attack on all the warriors is in a bad position that can and is being flanked, he divides his command taking Yates to the north to attack and leaves Keogh to cover his rear and keep all the warriors engaged (ala Reno). However there are too many warriors for Keogh and enough respond to his D fords attack that he has to withdraw and help Keogh who is in a fight for his life and being flanked on all sides.
Key problem with his Ford B attack is that he doesn't carry all 5 companies across, but due to seeing all the warriors coming from Reno, he sets up skirmish lines and his initiative fails. Any initial flankers that do cross the river don't last long even with cover fire. Then we get into Benteen's or whoever that thought that Co. C did cross at the Ford. Put's Harrington as the one shot at the river and some of the remnants being chased up GGR in a retrograde where some bodies were later reported. Then the Realbirds sold the left over cartridges by the bucket load to train passengers. Seems like Liddic has Co. C at the ford, I wonder what his model was. Can't afford his book yet.