Guard Forces in Doctrine Feb 27, 2014 20:43:45 GMT -5
Post by keogh on Feb 27, 2014 20:43:45 GMT -5
Sorry but I live and work in a real world and potentials are not fact. Since there was a river, bluffs, and lots of Indians Custer never got close to being within supporting distance within his own 5 companies let alone Reno's position in the valley.
So you don't think Cavalry can cover 2 miles in 15 minutes? I don't see that as a potential but a rational expectation. The bluffs posed no serious obstacle as Custer crossed the 3 miles of bluffs in about 20 minutes with no opposition whatsoever. He brought his command down to the river, which, in and of itself, also presented little difficulty in crossing, as we saw later from the Indians themselves. Ford B is just over a mile and a half from Reno's position at the Garryowen Loop. Custer could have provided him support within 20 minutes. Benteen could have provided support even sooner. At the time Custer reached the river, there were about a dozen or so Indians there to defend it. The "lots of Indians" were all heading towards Reno at the Garryowen Loop. Of course, they reversed course once they saw Reno heading for the hills.
You state 3 miles and 20 minutes as if you only have to be within 3 miles and that is considered support. The reality is that Custer blew your 20 minutes for support and then some. He did not intend to support Reno within 20 minutes.
Reno's support was less than 20 minutes away when he chose to abandon his mission and flee the valley. Even less than that when we factor in Benteen's support. I do think we can both agree that Custer never intended to support Reno within 20 minutes of sending him off on his mission. After all, this was not an Infantry battle. When Moylan was asked if he thought Custer expected Reno to retreat from the valley after holding for but 40 minutes, he answered, no, he would not. That's quite a telling admission, don't you think?
Reno was closer to Custer when he retrograded considering in the valley Custer would have to cross the river and go through all of those Indians.
Yes, but the plan was for the advance guard to be supported in its advanced position, not to turn the advance guard into the rear guard and then support the rear guard position back on the bluffs. How do you expect to win a battle with a plan like that?
If Custer could have crossed the LBH and traveled 2 miles toward Reno in 15 minutes to support Reno in a timely manner than why didn't he?
Because Reno was no longer there. In order for Custer to advance across the river and into the village in a timely manner, he must wait for the warriors to mount and prepare themselves and ride out to confront Reno's threat against the south end of the village. You don't race down to the river and try to batter down the back door with 2000 warriors left uncommitted in the village.
My answer is NOGO terrain features and Indians which you fail to factor in with your 3 miles and 20 minutes.
The NOGO terrain features were imo a non-factor, and the Indians did not become a problem for Custer until Reno's abandoned his position in the valley. And yes, the bluffs were crossed by Custer's advance in about 20 minutes, give or take 5 minutes.