Book published in 2018 recently bought; I'm at the beginning of reading (about 50 pages). It is a compelling, detailed and in-depth research lasting years on Crazy Horse's famous and controversial tintype photograph and on everything concerning the photography of the Lakota natives and the people who populated those years with many connections with the epic of the Little Big Horn. The details are really many. For example it turns out that there were two warriors with the name He Dog (Sunka Bloka), an Oglala friend of Crazy Horse and a Brulé (Sicangu) whose photographs are sometimes confused and so on. I don't want to spoil the reading, but I must say that the first time I saw this photo some years ago I was very impressed because that warrior was strange, somehow different from the others. Perhaps "the strange man of the Oglalas" of Mari Sandoz.
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I will certainly continue to read this book. But after so many years from those facts and without people that knew directly Crazy Horse in life I would not be so categorical in saying that that is not the picture of Crazy Horse. The point is: which is credible documentation? Now I am at page 100 but, for example, those who say that Crazy Horse would have refused anything from the wasicu, including being photographed, should bear in mind that, after his surrender, he enlisted twice as a scout for the US Army.
General of the Army (Medicine Man/Chief))
The Crazy Horse image is simply a tip of an immense iceberg of stuff for which there really is no term of description, let alone a word. Studying Crazy Horse subjectively is a good introduction to practicing study of the battle at Little Bighorn. I'm throwing up, rather that tossing in, a light link list which offers a worthwhile grounding in the Sioux's Minnieconjou hero. Crazy Horse was Minnieconjou which is an interesting starting place.
There were several Crazy Horse's and several of them fought Little Bighorn. I truly hope that you can bring rigour, science and clinical insight to the matters. I'm not poking fun and rather hint at the scale of misinformation and truly wonderful history which is available for digest. We simply scratch the surface.
Have you any idea where he was buried?
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If it walks like a duck, sounds like a duck, and looks like a duck ~ it is probably a goose.
Hi Herosrest, thank you for the links. And, yes, really the tip of an immense iceberg. A sort of labyrinth where for every answer there are more new questions. More or less like "our" LBH... Then in addition to several Tasunka Witko and Sunka Bloka there were, in those years, at least two Tatanka Yotanka. Not to mention the family structure. Oglala...Minneconjou. I don't want to claim that this is definitely a picture of Tasunka Witko but that it is a possibility. We know that for the common complexion standards of the Lakota Tasunka Witko was a "strange man". And the warrior of the tintype certainly is. About the burial site I hope only the family and close friends of his tyospaye knows where it is. Then, now and forever. P.S.: I believe that the big TW monument in the mountain was made with the best intentions of honoring TW but I am sorry that it spoils that magnificent and sacred landscape so much. I also believe it can be suited to European traditions rather than to the Lakota roots.
General of the Army (Medicine Man/Chief))
Just between you and me, I believe that the intended sculpture is nowhere near complete and its spirit languishes idly for now. If you step back from the face then is it not possible that he will be sat on his horse, the rock in front and below can be shaped (carved) into a horse's head ( ) and I believe that the vision was and is very much more than is seen now. Time will tell 'cos that is a mighty undertaking.
Now, and oddity. There is a rock carving reputedly done by CH on part of an overhang in Reno Creek. I bumped into images of it in 2008, I believe it was Father's Day here in UK and I had a kind of magic moment with Google searches on the old infrastructure before they began ranking commercially which really made the cute little dog happy, and a plethora of hits related to CH and Custer left me overwhelmed and nothing to do but work through them as best I could. So I was doing a here and now todo list of very interesting stuff. Custer was actually shot three times according to senior MD's diary. Custer and Churchill was of interest. I was actually researching the route taken from South Fork to the Crook fight and where and how the camp moved. It went into Little Bighorn valley - above Ford A stretching for two miles along to the rail halt at Benteen. Early lunchtime, I heard choppers overhead and looking out - there was PotUS on a visit to Her Majesty. Black Hawks and Apaches and the the UK HEMS. I watched them go over from RAF Northolt into London and returning to my PC - it was deader than an extinct volcano. Hard drive gone, dead, useless and unwound its mortal coil to be of less use than a dead parrot. Ho hum.............. Life can be a real female K-9, at times. A tun of data on that drive was......... gone and I was never able to find any of those search hits again. The J.M Williams CMO diary hit was amazing........... it was a trivial comment by someone summing up the thing for an auction or collection and could I find it again. Three wounds with two so close together as to look as one.
Hi Robb, thanks for the information. Sooner or later I will try to recover that old number. In any case, that of tintype is not "my candidate"; only a "possible candidate". At least until I finish reading the book. Difficult to have absolute certainties for that period even for the archaeological evidences, let alone the rest.