Col. A.B. Welch interviews A.McG.BEEDE, July 11th, 1920:
“I know of a certainty that he ([John] Grass) was in command of the Indian [Sihasapa] warriors in the north end of the village on the Little Big Horn and that the fight was practically over with Custer when Gall [finally] arrived from the fight with Reno’s command to the south. And John Grass beat the steamer [ie. Far West] to Standing Rock country with a few men, and it was always supposed that he was staying quietly there during that entire campaign.
From Col A.B. Welch's talk with John Grass, undated, with my annotations in brackets:
I am told by Chief Grass that Scarlet Point [ie. Inkpaduta] commanded the Isante and Yanktonai at the Battle of the Little Big Horn in 1876 and fled into Canada with Sitting Bull after the scattering of the Dakotah then. He probably died there as I do not hear of him since that time.
Col. A.B. Welch and Angela Boleyn interview Leo Cadotte (the nephew of John Grass) at Mandan, N.D., September 6th 1943, with my annotations in brackets:
The Oohenopa (Two Kettles) and the Sihasapa were together there [at the Little Big Horn on June 25, 1876]. They nearly always camped together. Black Moon was with them – he was Headman of the Brave Hearts (Police). Tall Mandan was also a Head Man of the Brave Hearts and was with the camp.... Before this time, General Custer had seen Grass and some other powerful men and wanted them to go with him into Montana country.
Chief Grass told him like this: ‘You have smoked with me. You have said that as long as water flows there will be peace between us. Therefore, you will not need me with you because you are going in peace. You have Padani Scouts with you who know the trails that way.’ But, he could not believe that Custer would take so many soldiers with him if he was really going in peace. He did not want to be identified with a war expedition against his own people. When they broke camp they moved west to be out there. We believe that Grass laid out the general plan to congregate in the valley of the Greasy Grass. Crazy Horse was a young man. He could not have made the plan [to congregate at the Little Big Horn] or he would have kept away from Gen. Crook. No one ever said that Sitting Bull laid out the plan [to congregate at the Little Big Horn]. Gall was doing just what Sitting Bull wanted him to do. Therefore, Gall did not do it. It was not Black Moon because he was not a Chief, but a Head Man of the Soldiers Society.
Then came the battle. Crazy Horse obtained much notoriety because he was where Custer came into the valley and started for the ford. [Note: Other Indian accounts do not place Crazy Horse in the vicinity of Ford B when Custer "came into the valley."] Gall was fighting at the south end of the village [against Reno's troops in the valley] and did not reach the Custer [battle]ground until the battle was almost over. Sitting Bull did not fight.
After the battle Chief Grass went back fast to the Grande River. Tall Mandan probably went with him because he appeared there too. You ask who Scabby Head was and I cannot tell you because I do not know. [Note: Scabby Head was said to be the leader of the Sihasapa.] Black Moon talked much after that and it is said that he was a great warrior at that fight. The old people never did call him Scabby Head. But the Sihasapa, nearly every young man among them, were there together with the Two Kettle fighting men. Their camp was about in the middle [of the Indian village] there. They probably fought with those of Crazy Horse. As the camps came in, they extended the camp line from Sitting Bull’s camp toward the north – so Chief Grass’ Sihasapa and Two Kettle must have appeared there and camped about the third in line toward the north. Crazy Horse’s band must have come in at the about the same time as the Cheyenne, and camped at the far north. (Welch - This seems logical according to the ‘map’ made by One Bull which shows the arrangement of the camps just before Custer struck them. It also agrees with the map made for me by Red Fish, a hostile Yanktonaise Chief, who made a mark on it and said ‘Chief Grass sat here.’ This last mentioned map shows the Council held after they had left the battlefield as troops started up the Big Horn after ferrying across the Yellowstone)....
Excerpt from Angela Boleyn letter to Welch, referring to the foregoing conversation:
…Most interesting about Tall Mandan and Black Moon. But I think Scabby Head was [John] Grass. A name he took or thought up at the moment he needed one, for Leo said it was not Black Moon. So Grass must have said something like this, ‘Say Scabby Head was in charge of the Sihasapa.’ Yes? and we have the story of the chiefs who smoked with Custer before he went after Sitting Bull and his hostiles and which culminated in the Custer Battle. Grand stuff.
[Note: It is my personal view that Chief John Grass was never at the Little Big Horn on June 25th, 1876. His account of the battle is riddled with far too many basic errors and absurdities to be taken seriously by most students of the battle.]