Post by thehighwayman on Apr 14, 2008 6:51:33 GMT -5
Hello Melani- Yes, and of course nobody consulted Libbie. The least they could have done was give her her own gun.
I'm not so sure about that. I think I read, in one of Libbie's books [or Gen. C's My Life On The Plains], that Gen. C. did ask her to carry a small pistol or Derringer 'just in case'. There was a safe zone [so to speak] outside post walls, even so, he wanted her to carry it then as well. In fact, several officers provided their wives with small caliber handguns for the same purpose.
Whether she followed his request or not is rather ambiguous, IF I am remembering the matter correctly. Perhaps Gen. C. also had his doubts, and his requests/orders given to Cooke and Tom were meant as a backup in case Libbie couldn't bring herself to do it. Then again, she always had that knowing little smile, so maybe she was packin' after-all.
Post by custerwest on Apr 14, 2008 11:30:42 GMT -5
Yes, and of course nobody consulted Libbie. The least they could have done was give her her own gun.
Calamity Jane was already schocking the Victorian elites with her profanity and life. Imagine the legendary Libbie Custer with two guns, killing the Indians who chase her wagon.
I would pay to see that. Libbie had great courage (especially for standing against the liars after LBH), but she was also afraid of the thunderstorm when she was in Richmond in the end of the war. All that said, however, Richmond was not a nice place to be in the end of the war...
Whittaker was a hack writer whose bio on Custer was full of articles written by Custer and newspaper accounts. He did very little research. It was also said he coached two of the packers from the battle and tried to get Weir to say something negative but Weir told him basically to get lost.
In addition, Whittaker later absolved Benteen of any wrong doing at the LBH.
Post by benteeneast on Mar 17, 2008 9:50:18 GMT -5
Yes he did. And the only finding that is relevant for the RCOI is what the court found. Advocates for either side have only one point of view to present. They are not unbiased or have no obligation to help the other sided. Funny how you need to look outside those that actually had the responsibility to make the judgments.
custerwest I believe this is the trap that you have placed yourself in. You act as an attorney with regards to being a Custer advocate. Then you also want to be the judge of the other sides attorney's witnesses and evidence. Would you want to go to court with the prosecutor also the judge against you?
I think with the United States form of government that acting as attorney and judge strikes many of us as blatantly wrong. All my witnesses are truthful and all yours are liars because I am also the judge. What wrong with that picture?
What a joke! Even the Reno Court of Inquiry chairman Jesse Lee condemned Benteen.
Whittaker was trying to put Reno in second trial and thus was forgetting Benteen to target Reno. Benteen's soldiers, who had seen him on June 26, supported him for that action, and Whittaker knew that it would be difficult to condemn Benteen because of the support he gained one day after Custer's death.
Of course, all of Benteen's men knew that they hadn't seen any action during the whole Custer Battle because Benteen had ignored his orders and waited on Reno Hill while Custer and his men were slaughtered.
Captain Weir to Benteen: “We ought to be over there!”
Ah, just a clarification. While I don't know who the President of the COI was, I do know that Lee was the Judge-Advocate General, in civilian-speak, the prosecuting attorney. As such, he did probably feel that he had proven his case. Obviously the members of the COI felt otherwise.
As far as the other paragraph's of your rant, that is merely your opinion unsubstantiated by facts.
Also, while I am thinking about it, you have stated numerous times that Benteen "lied" on the witness stand and use the Golden letters as some type of a cudgel. IIRC, Benteen said something to the effect that he did not tell all he knew and because he wasn't asked, he did not volunteer the information. I'll try to look that up as I do have Graham's "The Custer Myth". Which title now makes me think that Graham was having an inside joke on the Custer-philes.
"Indications are that we shall have the whole fighting force of the Sioux nation to contend with."
George Crook telegraph to Gen. Sheridan May 29, 1876