Tricia
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Alexandrina Pavlovna Valenya, Spring 1866
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Post by Tricia on Mar 8, 2008 4:25:24 GMT -5
I have decided to post the following email sent to Chairman Bill Blake:
Chairman Blake-- Since you have been reluctant to answer any of my past emails to you--apparently customer service is not your strong point--I must register my absolute and total concern regarding any payments for this year's conference in Hagerstown. Unfortunately, I am not attending this gathering, but I am deeply offended that we are to make our PERSONAL checks out to you, rather than the LBHA. You owe this membership an explanation--now. This methodology smacks of scandal and I am going to be more than happy to bring this entire matter up for discussion at your new, improved, and entirely sacred discussion forum. The last time I checked--though I didn't want to remember--Joan Croy is our treasurer and you have NO right to demand our personal monies for yourself.
I am simply disgusted. And you will be hearing from other members of this once-august organisation. I would advise you to change your practice, Chairman, and remember the hard-working members of this group owe you nothing. You owe them gratitude and appreciation--not greed. In closing, I am glad that I am not attending this conference. And should a similar occurence happen next year in Billings, I won't be in attendence there, either. NDN
Welcome back Trish. That was a rather short hiatus you took since you last announced you had quit this forum in a huff. To date, you have assumed the identity of 3 different characters, custerfreckles, Clara Blinn, and now your latest incarnation as 'dininstigator'. Thats a very clever name you chose. I wonder what it could possibly refer to? Your 'raison d' etre'?
For those of our new members who have not yet had the pleasure of meeting our very own Trish, be wary of taking anything she says on face value, unless it is accompanied with a very large grain of salt. If we were to make a list of all of her outrageously false accusations (everything from her alleged pre-banning, to releasing her telephone and social security numbers, which of course, we don't have!) it would make for some very entertaining reading. Sit back and enjoy the show, but don't make the mistake of taking her seriously. After all, its all about instigation.
The Moderator
*Note to the forum. Trishia Johnson-McDuffie passed away on July 9 due to a sudden heart attack. We will all miss her and we wish her Godspeed.
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Post by Melani on Mar 8, 2008 5:05:25 GMT -5
You might try starting out more courteously--when you just attack like that, you're only going to make him respond in kind, not say, "Oh, sorry, you're right and I'll change my ways immediately." Though you are most definitely right about proper procedure for a 501(c)3.
But I am confused--you resigned your membership in the LBHA, or let it lapse, and that makes you sad because Blake wants you to run for the BOD, but now you're attacking him? I truly don't understand what you are doing here.
But again, I believe you are correct about financial procedure. It would be best if the checks were made out to "LBHA' rather than an indiviual.
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Post by Im Worried Too on Mar 8, 2008 8:24:37 GMT -5
Exactly Melani, a calmer approach would have been better. But Trish is upset. Maybe she should have taken a timeout before responding.
Another thing I find interesting. She has posted that Steve Alexander told her that she is the first novelist who has gotten Custer "right". But when you read her posts about her book, she mentions this BEFORE she knew Alexander. Weird. I wonder if she really let her membership lapse. I guess that could easily be checked out.
I don't think Blake wants her on the BOD. That's another one of her stories.
Melani, thanks for trying to be the voice of reason.
Trish, you might want to try more fiber in your diet. You might feel better.
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Post by custerwest on Mar 8, 2008 14:17:20 GMT -5
Trish...
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Post by cisdyd on Mar 8, 2008 14:34:14 GMT -5
I have decided to post the following email sent to Chairman Bill Blake. I am one second away from calling the Internal Revenue Service to revoke our 501 (c) (3) Charter: Chairman Blake-- Since you have been reluctant to answer any of my past emails to you--apparently customer service is not your strong point--I must register my absolute and total concern regarding any payments for this year's conference in Hagerstown. Unfortunately, I am not attending this gathering, but I am deeply offended that we are to make our PERSONAL checks out to you, rather than the LBHA. You owe this membership an explanation--now. This methodology smacks of scandal and I am going to be more than happy to bring this entire matter up for discussion at your new, improved, and entirely sacred discussion forum. The last time I checked--though I didn't want to remember--Joan Croy is our treasurer and you have NO right to demand our personal monies for yourself. I frankly do not care if you are the Queen of Sheba; this is something I am certain the IRS would like to know. I am simply disgusted. And you will be hearing from other members of this once-august organisation. I would advise you to change your practice, Chairman, and remember the hard-working members of this group owe you nothing. You owe them gratitude and appreciation--not greed. In closing, I am glad that I am not attending this conference. And should a similar occurence happen next year in Billings, I won't be in attendence there, either. NDN Having "ghosted" at this board as well as the other, I do get the impression that public relations and communications are not Bill Blake's forte. However, being clumsy in that sphere does not by any stretch of the imagination equate to malfeasance on his part. I suspect, looking at it from the outside, that the explanation is simply that he either paid some kind of deposit out of his own pocket or that he will make an detailed accounting of any monies received and disbursed-as per IRS regulations he or the organization has to. Fiber? Many on this and the other board could use a "heapin' helping" of it. CISDYD
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Tricia
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Alexandrina Pavlovna Valenya, Spring 1866
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Post by Tricia on Mar 8, 2008 23:17:10 GMT -5
Let me add my apologies to this thread. I have been under serious stress the last week--it is the anniversary of my husband's death--for which I was hospitalised because I considered suicide--my brother's hospitalisaton--he could have easily died this week because nobody thought he needed a chest X-ray, my increasing physical problems and the emotional scars that are caused by the dosage of prednisone. I suffer from a steroid-based case of bi-polar disorder but the drugs are the only thing that are keeping me walking and they had to be increased--again--today. This is all getting very tiring and annoying ....
And for any annoyance I have caused, I am sorry. But if you will note, I met Steve Alexander in June and wouldn't allow him to take our "relationship" public until I was comfortable in doing so--he doesn't need freaks telling him I'm a freak. That said, he is my biggest supporter and yep, I am the "first novelist to get Custer right." Even David had to admit that I was very empathetic to Custer in my book--and since I come from a direct victim of the Long Walk, I had some very inbred cultural prejudices--we hate Kit Carson and my family only pushed me into typical Indian thoughts--and I overcame them. That has to say something about my scholarly openness and willingness to learn. Yes, I think Washita was a massacre--but I also understand why it happened. Like Custer, I am an enigma--both Indian and Prussian, but was more culturally involved with the Tribe, thanks to my grandparents and aunt--and yes, my great-grandfather and grandfather were both Navajo Tribal Chairmen. My aunt won the Medal of Freedom and unfortunately, her awardance came just after the death of JFK--she had several items for Caroline and John-John.
I was also told for several years that when I thought I remembered seeing my mother laying on the couch, foaming at the mouth, it was a dream. Turns out I was accurate--and there is nothing more scary than coming home as a two year-old, seeing a cop coming through one door and a mother on the couch, struggling for her final breaths in her blue oriental shirt and black capri pants . My dad still carries her photo in his wallet--he blames himself for griping about not making the bed that day after staying up late with her guy friends--and Phillip tried to invoke a bigger understanding of her short, tragic life. Like me, she was horribly spoiled and told how special she was ... ad nauseum. The only thing special about me is my ability to write and I didn't win a gang of prizes because I am a pathetic author ... and I didn't get on the Board of Directors upon one of the largest writers' groups in the mid-South because I am an idiot. I started a poetry prize in honour of my husband, and I am a well-respected editor and judge in this state. I am also considered the "Arkansas sex scene doctor "and if anyone has problems with such scenes, I will work for free. I don't care what state you live in. But through my contests, I get to see some of the best fiction in the world--and that is my biggest joy.
Once again, I hope I have enlighted some with admitting my emotional problems. And no, I'm not a victim--just kind of unlucky and I think I must have been Hitler in my previous life. Even P had to shake his head at my bad karma.
Regards and apologies. Tricia Johnson-McDuffie Little Rock, AR
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Alexandrina Pavlovna Valenya, Spring 1866
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Post by Tricia on Mar 9, 2008 1:43:15 GMT -5
Exactly Melani, a calmer approach would have been better. But Trish is upset. Maybe she should have taken a timeout before responding. Another thing I find interesting. She has posted that Steve Alexander told her that she is the first novelist who has gotten Custer "right". But when you read her posts about her book, she mentions this BEFORE she knew Alexander. Weird. I wonder if she really let her membership lapse. I guess that could easily be checked out. Always a skeptic. There's a million or two--and if you really had the gumption to take responsiblity for your posts, you'd not hide as a guest. I want to make it extremely clear that I was very cautious about admitting my friendship with Steve because of people like you who have nothing better than to do than spread rumours because I had--at one time--blonde hair or because my skin wasn't dark enough for an Injun. He said he'd keep it quiet until I decided to go public--and I kept it quiet until I was ready. I met the fellow in June, gave him my first chapter--at his request--and within one day of arriving in LR, I got a verrry complimentary and loooong phone message from him. He talked me into attending the conference at North Platte--as it had to do with my research--and we met again. He and Sandy took me to Starbucks and we discussed the chapters I had sent to him. He stayed up all night one night reading Chapter Two, I believe ... and that is when he told me about my talent in portraying GAC. I was also invited to join him at the "general's table" and I sat between Steve, the Grand Duke, and General Sheridan. He then asked me to come to Monroe in October--as his guest. My mother and I enjoyed his hospitality and his Custer-hyperness. He has offered me my first book signing--and for that I am truly grateful. I want to make it very explicit that he doesn't agree with my storyline--but that he supports my impressions of George Armstrong Custer. He was also surprised that a woman could bring a fellow as enigmatic as GAC to life--right down to his ticks and flirtations with obsessive-compulsion disorder and his lusts. In my manuscript, I mentioned certain aspects of his personality that no one really knows--but got them right. That was weird. I am truly thankful to have had the opportunity to develop these important friendships and mentoristic relationships. Thanks, Steve and Sandy. You're the best! NDN
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Post by Melani on Mar 10, 2008 21:36:22 GMT -5
Ideally, the account should be in the name of the LBHA. If Bill Blake fronted for any expenses, he could be reimbursed from that account. But I'm sure there are a number of ways to legally handle such things.
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Post by keogh on Jul 21, 2008 14:52:53 GMT -5
I just returned from the LBHA Hagerstown Conference yesterday evening and would like to thank everyone who made this Conference such a stunning success. I had a truly wonderful time meeting many old and new friends there. I traveled down to the event with rch, who is a most knowledgeable and pleasant travel companion. The Sheraton Four Points is a fine hotel and served as an excellent base of operations for our varied excursions into the field, exploring the South Mountain passes (Turner's Gap, Fox's Gap & Crampton's Gap), Harpers Ferry, and the Antietam Battlefield. At the latter, we explored the Pry House, General MacClellan's HQ where both Custer and Keogh were stationed during the battle; the Corn field, where Gen. Hooker was wounded; Bloody Lane (the Sunken Road), where Gen. Gordon was wounded; the stone observation tower, and Burnside Bridge. In particular, I enjoyed the movie shown at the Visitor Center at Antietam. It was far more impressive than the one currently being shown at the Gettysburg Visitor Center. After seeing this movie, one truly gets a very clear picture of what went on that day among the troops as they maneuvered and fought across this vast battlefield. Robert Freis was our tour guide for this event.
The late afternoons and evenings were spent at the hotel meeting with a very large group of wonderful LBHA Associates who all acted as one rather large family gathering. There was the always interesting book room, the meeting hall, the dining room, and of course, the bar, which each had its own group of denizens all willing to talk and discuss almost any subject imaginable---tho most of it centered on Custeriana, of course. I am afraid our group spent much of the evening closing up whatever room (either the Meeting Hall or the Bar) we happened to be in at the time, as invariably we were the last to retire to our rooms each night. Our group included a rather eclectic and engaging group of individuals that included rch and Fred Wagner from our own forum here, as well as long time associates Don Horn, Bill Boyes, Bill Blake, Don Schwarck, Father Vince Heier, Wayne Sarf, Michael O'Keefe, Peter Tarantino, Joe Creaden, Bill Serritella, Dale Kosman, Joan Croy, Colleen Shea, Jeanne Lyons, Sandy Barnard, Tom Bookwalter, Art Keen and several others whose names I did not get. The warmth and camaraderie was much like a family reunion in all respects.
The speakers on Saturday were a very interesting lot, for the most part. I especially found interesting the talk by Dale Harrison on Civil War clothing and styles, and Jeffery Wert gave an very good presentation on Custer during this period of the Civil War. We also had interesting talks given on Custer at West Point, debating Custer and the LBH, and a rather tepid talk given by a local professor, Tom Clemens about a few personalities at Antietam who later played a role at LBH. In addition to General Custer, these included Gen. Gibbons, Gen. Crook, Major Reno, and Captain Keogh. For some strange reason, Prof. Clemens knew little if anything about Keogh's presence in the area, and thus said nothing at all about him other than to openly admit his ignorance. At one point, I had to explain to him that Keogh was assigned to Gen. Buford's staff as an aide de camp and thus would have been stationed with Custer at the Pry House during the battle. In fact, where ever Buford was located, Keogh would be close at hand. This would include Gettysburg, Boonesboro, Funkstown, Williamsport and Falling Waters as well.
The Saturday night banquet was a wonderful event. The food was good and the camaraderie even better. Dick Micka, Bill Serritella and a number other gentlemen and ladies were dressed in impressive period attire, and after the meal, presentations were made to several associates. Lifetime achievement awards were made to Frank Mercatante, Don Horn and Bruce Liddic for their vast contributions to the organization over the years, and literary awards were given to Wayne Sarf and Fred Wagner---Wayne for his memorable book The Little Bighorn Campaign and Fred for his impressive article on Fred Girard in the 2007 Research Review. All were most deserving of the awards given them. When the banquet festivities had ended, both Fred and I had a very interesting chat with the descendants of Frederick Benteen, who were in attendance.
All in all, we all had a grand time at Hagerstown and look forward to seeing all again next June at our annual conference in Billings Montana.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 21, 2008 19:57:46 GMT -5
This was the first conference I have attended, having been a member only since September 2005. Because the Sheraton does not take pets, my wife and I stayed at a hotel a couple of miles away and I could not make a number of the activities. I did, however, make the Thursday evening board meeting and the “first-timers” get-together that same evening. I made neither of the field trips—same reason; nowhere to stow the pup—but on Thursday my wife and I drove around Frederick, Maryland, then on Friday, the Antietam battlefield. There was an auction Friday evening and while I fully intended to make it, I missed virtually the whole thing because I wound up gabbing with too many people about too many subjects.
Saturday, I attended the morning lectures, but again, wound up spending the afternoon with my wife. That evening we went to the banquet. I had met a couple of the older members of the LBHA before, but I had never met Myron Steves (who is now 96 years old; he was married to Fred Benteen’s granddaughter), Father Vince Heier, John Mackintosh, Sandy Barnard, and Bruce Liddic, and I was determined to do so. I succeeded. The added bonus was Myron Steves’ son, “Buddy.” In addition, I managed to spend a good deal of time with Bill Blake, Bill Boyes, Don Schwarck, Don Horn, Dale Kosman and those members Keogh mentioned, above. There were many others, as well.
I have been around too long to be drawn into the old nonsense about “we are family”—too many companies tout that little bromide and then at the first hint of pressure, begin canning “family” members, so most of that kind of talk is bunk—but at this conference it rang true. I found an honesty and a decency in the LBHA, and at the board meeting there was a willingness to discuss finances and whatever else members brought up; the entire meeting was conducted with an openness that surprised me and it did not end until everyone was satisfied with the answers they received.
Like “Keogh”—and “rch”—I had a marvelous time and I liked everyone we met, and that includes every member of the board, all of whom were up-front with me and offered to show me anything I wanted to see regarding the organization. I intend to make the Billings conference in 2009 and I was even roped into a re-ride—in period uniform, no less—by Bill Serritella. (Good Lord!) Those who missed this conference missed a lot of fun. These are losses that can never be replaced.
Best wishes, Fred.
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Post by rch on Jul 22, 2008 13:27:58 GMT -5
I'm a bump on a lod, but I had a good time at the Hay-gerstown convention (I will probably fall back on a long time habit of calling the town Hag-erstown). I traveled very much in the tail of the Fred/Keogh comet, as I am doing now.
I think that the meeting was hurt by the absence of Eric Wittenberg. Those who want to know his reasons can find them on his blog. His reasons, coming as they do from a man who once wanted to be a member of the LBHA Board, seen odd and impolitic to me.
How much better the meeting would be with Mr. Wittenberg's help is hard to say. There was criticism of our guide for the bus tours, but he was not responsible for the brutal heat. I hope Mr. Wittenberg finds some satisfaction in the fact that he might have helped to make the meeting better and that he did not. He'll never get my vote.
The best speaker was a man whose name I do not remember. He was the head of the a civil war medical musuem in Frederick, MD. It's too hot for me to look it up now or to worry about spelling heretofore and hereinafter. His organization runs the Pry House, and the man was a whiz. Even though he spoke for only a few minutes, you could tell he loved his work, even if he hadn't said straight out that he did.
His organization is also tops. I once read in a regimental history that Custer bade farewell to his division on the grounds of Finley Hopital in Washington DC. I finally contacted the Frederick museum by email and got a reply the next day with the hospital's location, a copy of a lithograph of Finley Hospital, and word that if I was looking for a particular patient, I could probably trace him.
I think the LBHA, or maybe just the NYC Round Table, should go to Frederick someday, see that medical museum, take a crack at those cavalry fights of 1863 that Mr Wittenberg kept to himself, and the 1864 fight near Sheperdstown where Custer retreated across the Potomac over the same ford Lee used after Antietem.
rch
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Post by cisdyd on Jul 22, 2008 14:44:50 GMT -5
RCH, as you well know, time is money. While E can explain himself much better than I (and has made, it seems to me, a perfectly reasonable explanation) please understand that he is not the only formerly scheduled presenter to discover after saying yes that he would not be reimbursed even expenses. I am not sure if I am at liberty to publicly disclose his name but PM me here or at the other board and we can discuss it. You know (or blabber-mouth Fred will tell you) who I am.
Be good,
CISDYD
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Post by ericwittenberg on Jul 22, 2008 21:27:49 GMT -5
I think that the meeting was hurt by the absence of Eric Wittenberg. Those who want to know his reasons can find them on his blog. His reasons, coming as they do from a man who once wanted to be a member of the LBHA Board, seen odd and impolitic to me. How much better the meeting would be with Mr. Wittenberg's help is hard to say. There was criticism of our guide for the bus tours, but he was not responsible for the brutal heat. I hope Mr. Wittenberg finds some satisfaction in the fact that he might have helped to make the meeting better and that he did not. He'll never get my vote. I've made my reasons known in public, as you point out, but since you've referenced them here, I will make the point. I don't work for free unless I choose to do so. I choose not to work for free for events where as much money changed hands as did for this event; I only work for free for battlefield preservation organizations and Civil War Roundtables, and even then, they all pay travel expenses. Even the Stuart-Mosby Historical Society paid travel expenses and for a night in the hotel for me to come to Richmond to speak on the occasion of Jeb Stuart's birthday in February even though only a handful of members (less than 20) attended the event. [Moderator Note: The LBHA pays travel expenses for its guest speakers] I particularly don't work for free when policies are enforced hypocritically, as this policy is enforced. Why do Jeff Wert and Tom Clemens get paid for their time, but I don't? Why weren't they tricked into accepting a membership in order to avoid paying them as I was? Why was this unfair and unreasonable policy not explained to me in 2006 before a membership was made part of my "compensation" to avoid paying me? I would appreciate your answers to these questions since you seem to have strong opinions about the subject. Please, do enlighten me. [Moderator Note: Here is your answer, Eric. Jeff and Tom were paid travel expenses, just as you would have, had you agreed to participate in the event. You were never "tricked" into accepting membership in our organization, and your membership is irrelevant when it comes to assessing travel expenses or "compensation". Thus, there is nothing "unfair" or "unreasonable" in LBHA policies.]
I had never been a member of the LBHA before that 2006 event, and had I known about this policy this spring, I certainly never would have renewed the membership. I only learned about it AFTER renewing, again, so nobody would have to pay me. Had there been an offer to at least pay my travel expenses, I might still have participated. [Moderator's Note: There is no LBHA policy that you allege above. Whoever told you so is manipulating you with an intentional falsehood. Travel expenses would have been compensated to you, as it was to others, had you agreed to participate in the Conference.] Let's focus on the issue, shall we? I'm self-employed. On an average day, I bill somewhere between $750 and $1000 worth of my time, which, along with my 21 years of experience as a lawyer, is all I have to offer. As Abraham Lincoln said, "A lawyer's time and advice are his stock in trade." No truer words have ever been spoken about my chosen profession. [Moderator's Note: Most of us have jobs and gave up time from our work to participate in this year's Conference. And, unlike our speakers, we do not get travel expenses to attend.]For me to give up that revenue/cash flow, there has to be some financial incentive, or there has to be some emotional fulfillment. Had I attended, as you think I should have, it would have cost me that billable time, time away from my family after I was gone 16 of 30 days in June, plus $200 worth of gasoline going back and forth, not to mention the wear and tear on my vehicle. I've done conferences before. LOTS of them, including two last month. I'm leaving for another one tomorrow. As a general rule, I no longer get much of an emotional reward from it; after the ordeal of last month, I would really rather just be home resting. So, in the absence of an emotional reward, there has to be some sort of economic incentive for it to be worth my while. However, in your opinion, I'm supposed to give all of that for NOTHING when others are getting paid to do exactly the same thing? Surely, you jest. [Moderator's Note: Surely you misunderstood. Your travel expenses were never in question, however, your desire to make up for your lost billable hours to the tune of $1000 certainly was. We did not have this problem with our other speakers.]Perhaps I'm alone in my stand, and frankly, I don't give a damn if I am. However, I view this as very much a matter of principle, and I won't compromise on that principle where hypocrisy is concerned. [Moderator's Note: There is no hypocrisy here.]What would I have added to the conference? Frankly, I don't know. I have never, ever held myself out as an expert on Antietam (to be honest, I don't even know why it was selected when Custer was nothing but a staff officer who really didn't participate in the battle in any meaningful way, but that wasn't my choice), and nobody would ever mistake me for one. Could I have talked about the retreat from Gettysburg, which is my expertise? Sure, but would it have been consistent with the theme of the conference? No. Ultimately, I have no idea what I would have added, and I certainly got no guidance from Mr. Blake when I asked for it. [Moderator's Note: Mr. Blake gave you an entirely free hand to discuss Custer's role in the area. It would have made perfect sense for you to have discussed the retreat from Gettysburg. Because we had a field trip scheduled to Antietam Battlefield does not mean that the entire theme of our Conference is limited to the year 1862.]
Finally, I'm pleased to hear that you and the others enjoyed the conference. I take no satisfaction one way or the other. To be candid, that would require me to care, and I haven't invested the time or emotional energy to care. Rest assured that I did not wish or hope that the event would be a failure. [Moderator's Note: I am rather surprised that you indicate you have "neither the time or emotional energy to care" about our affairs. One would never have guessed that you expressed a keen ambition to run for a seat on our Board of Directors, and even ran as a write-in candidate at our last election.] As far as running for the board is concerned, I frankly haven't got the time. I've just been elected a founding voting trustee of the newly-formed Buffington Island Battlefield Preservation Foundation, and, to be quite blunt, saving Ohio's only Civil War battlefield is more important to me than dealing with the political quagmire that is the LBHA. Saving Ohio's only battlefield seems to me to be a better, more productive, and ultimately more satisfying use of what little time I have available for this sort of thing than trying to sort out the mess that I would leap into. So, you need not worry about whether you will be voting for me or not because I won't be running any time soon. Eric [Moderator's Note: Eric, you have already made an effort to run twice.]
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Post by Deleted on Jul 23, 2008 13:59:26 GMT -5
You know, for all you idiots out there who despise the LBHA so much, there is a very, very simple solution: quit! And quit these boards as well. That way you will not read anything you feel is disparaging (you will be quickly forgotten, that I can assure you!); you will not have to tell anyone how rich you are, or how much money you make per hour, or how many billable hours you lose by traveling to a conference where everyone cares about what you have to say; or how steep the price of gas (that you can take up with your local politicians); and you can post your thoughts and ideas and share your brilliance somewhere else, with people who will grovel at your feet and massage your insecurities without wasting your time reading or posting on boards belonging to the "good old boys" or people you disagree with. As for "good old boys," I think everyone who belongs to the LBHA falls into that category, so by simply collecting your pro rata membership fee-- as at least one clown already has-- you can feel you have lost nothing further and can move on with your life leaving the rest of us to wallow in our glee.
Quite frankly, I am sick and tired of dealing with penny-ante egos and fools who look through key-holes just so they can see others make faces at them.
So, like I said, quit, just leave, go away, collect your remaining dues, and fade... Quitting seems to be in the blood anyway, so no one will be the wiser.
Oh-h, and Mr. Wittenberg... I know you like to swing it around like a cudgel, but I for one am unimpressed with you being at attorney in Columbus, Ohio. It is sort of tantamount to being the strongest man in Connecticut... if you know what I mean: who gives a s**t?!
Fred the Blabber Mouth
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Post by cookestown on Jul 23, 2008 14:39:49 GMT -5
Amazing, simply amazing. Who would have ever thought that someone would emerge with an ego as big as the Civil War itself. We have such an individual in Mr. Wittenberg. Hopefully, our LBHA has seen the last of him.
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